Eastern European Saber
Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 7:17 am
Enough interest has arisen that I wanted to create an Eastern European Saber thread. This would be for Polish, Hungarian, Cossack and so on systems. These systems are not identical though, and mostly we as a community have been exploring Polish saber and related systems looking at the 17th century. This thread is for everyone to provide videos, pamphlets, and resources.
Below are some videos and links from members of our community on the topic.
There is an online manual on Polish saber that is a guesstimate of what it might have been like. This is Zablocki's (modern guy) view of Starzeweski's 1830 manual, which is trying to re-create 17th century Polish saber.(See below resources for comments on this.)
Wojciech Zabłocki was one of the greatest Polish olympic fencers http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wojciech_Zab%C5%82ocki but his works on "historical fencing" are based mostly on his experiences with sports and as such have limited value for serious researchers.
Book (In Polish)
Rus Mitchell was taught Hungarian/Eastern European saber which uses the pass quite a bit. He responds to email.
Hand out by Daria Izdebska on Polish saber, includes an overview of what resources there are and some of the issues with them. (Near bottom of the page, lots of other hand outs too on other systems!) Be sure to read about the Hellish Polish Fourth cut!
http://www.historical-academy.co.uk/lib ... douts.html
http://translate.google.com/translate?h ... CC0Q7gEwAA
Polish site that discusses sources.
Video of sparring by the Phoenix Society
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16dtIgPtuuQ (Foam. Hey, its 20 Euro!)
Video of sparring by Ken P.
Video of sparring by Olek F.
A father son team (Sieniawski) have the 1800's manual and some German resources they say link up. If you watch their videos you can see how they are based on the 1800's manual. I've corresponded with them a bit. They primarily work in the film industry. They do respond to email.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ab2atvLjcDo (Teaching in Russia I believe)
An Indian series of systems from the Punjab area. Not Eastern European, but we are all looking at curved blades to see how they might be used on foot.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLTcVJGMBkQ (1 of 3 videos on the Tulwar)
The above links are my own, and those poached from an equipment thread. Thanks to all the contributors.