When looking for new gear for my club my number one question is, "Is it safe?". It doesn't matter how nice a sword plays in the bind if it is going to catastrophically fail and hurt someone.
After months of searching through forums I might get an answer, might. So what I feel we need is an approval or certification process for gear.
I'm not asking for subjective opinions like "Rawlings suck in the bind" but rather objective ones like "Hanwei rapiers are approved, but their feder longswords are too unreliable".
The procedure could be relatively simple. After using the equipment for at least (6 months) the club can vote. With enough votes (three clubs? five?) it gets approved. If there are more than one club voting against then it fails.
Besides being a valuable resource to the community, having an HA Approved logo on their site would be good advertising for both us and the vendor.
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I like the idea. What would the liability implications be?
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Jake Norwood wrote:I like the idea. What would the liability implications be?
That's a very good question. That's why I used the term "approved" instead of my original idea of "certified".
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Jonathan Allen wrote:Jake Norwood wrote:I like the idea. What would the liability implications be?
That's a very good question. That's why I used the term "approved" instead of my original idea of "certified".
Liability could still be applied there as they are giving there opinion that this is a quality product.
I like the idea, but liability issues would need to be explored.
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Re: HEMA Alliance Approved Gear
ANY weapon can fail catastrophically. A list of absolutely safe weapons looks like this:
- Catastrophically fail proof gear:
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Would the Alliance ever approve of this kind of gear?
Helmschmied Harness
Really, I should like to know.

Helmschmied Harness
Really, I should like to know.

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No. That's historical chivalric fantasy roleplayer gear and we hates it, hobbitses, we hates it.
Seriously, though, I think what Jonathan is asking about would equate to quality when it comes to the historical stuff. It would be nice to know that the modern reproduction harness you're about to drop $20,000 for is quality, durable, and of appropriate specs to the original, and not crappy larping gear.
Not that I'm qualified to make the distinction.
Jake
Seriously, though, I think what Jonathan is asking about would equate to quality when it comes to the historical stuff. It would be nice to know that the modern reproduction harness you're about to drop $20,000 for is quality, durable, and of appropriate specs to the original, and not crappy larping gear.
Not that I'm qualified to make the distinction.
Jake
Re: HEMA Alliance Approved Gear
Without any hyperbole this time, I think the way to do this would be more like a ratings system done by individual members. This way, the HEMAA isn't on the hook for approving or certifying anything. This allows the HEMAA to remain impartial and non-biased.
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Re: HEMA Alliance Approved Gear
Like an Angie's list for HEMA gear?
Re: HEMA Alliance Approved Gear
More or less.
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"A poor Stück will be executed by an ingenious mindful person much more usefully in the work, than the best one will be executed by a fool."
HEMAA Lifetime Member
Krieg School of Historical Fencing, a HEMAA group
"A poor Stück will be executed by an ingenious mindful person much more usefully in the work, than the best one will be executed by a fool."