Project Proposal - Rigid Hand Protection

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Re: Project Proposal - Rigid Hand Protection

Postby Lee S » Fri Mar 11, 2011 1:57 pm

I have stealth gaunts.

I really like them, very well made, extremely protective... however, they aren't cheap... and they do not work as well when facing nylon swords.

Also, I paid over a K for mine.

So you will not be inclined to travel with them as they are hand made, expensive, and have a waiting list and are difficult to replace.

Honestly I am more protective over my stealth gauntlets than my actual swords.

What we need are gloves designed specifically for HEMA. Half in the past, half in the future. So modern materials, a sleek look, with a historical feel. The mix between stealth gauntlet and Lacrosse gauntlet I think would be ideal.

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Re: Project Proposal - Rigid Hand Protection

Postby Sean Karp » Fri Mar 11, 2011 4:37 pm

Titanium:
http://tigauntlets.com/

Stealth Gauntlets: Already handled. Yep, those or something like them. They are not cheap, but they are nice. If you post that you want them on the Armour Archive's Classifieds I'm sure you can get a hold of more than one person to make them.

The Wisby gauntlet kit that Knitebee sells:
brianbee30@yahoo.com, http://www.brianbrownarmoury.com/ (though his site seems down at the moment).
http://www.roughfromthehammer.com/parts.html Though he seems to be out at the moment (theyare being redesigned from what I've heard).
Windrose Armoury's sells them sometimes too.

Wisby style gauntlet's in general:
http://forums.armourarchive.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=116848.
http://3turretsarmoury.info/Gauntlets_c2.htm.
http://www.bestarmour.com/gauntlets_7.html.
http://www.merctailor.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=44&osCsid=617vhphk5jkd026a4cq2v0b8f5.
Icefalcon Armoury may be able to help though I do not know what Andreas charges for his work.
Anshelm Arms and Armor.
Wild Armoury.
Michael of Armstreet Armoury is also worth talking to.
Shamrock Armoury has also done some in the past, and they are currently taking orders.
Leoric1958@gmail.com who makes the below (Thread is HERE):
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Also you may wish to ask Known World Treasures to see if they can help.
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Re: Project Proposal - Rigid Hand Protection

Postby Jess Rozek » Sun Mar 13, 2011 1:56 pm

Someone mentioned using winter motorcycle gloves a while back... may I present from the world of alpine racing: race gloves!

http://www.reliableracing.com/detail.cfm?edp=11054400

Downhill gloves are meant for taking a beating from hard plastic breakaway gates. Trust me when I say breakaway gates hurt when they hit you - leave welts and stuff and padded gloves (in the absence of cups for your poles) take a direct hit from every pole you take. You can't feel a thing through them and they're very comfy. There's a good amount of movement in all the fingers and they're pretty cheap (comparatively).

However, they are winter gloves and they're probably best for those in colder areas or those who have cold hands ;)
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Re: Project Proposal - Rigid Hand Protection

Postby Jean Chandler » Mon Mar 28, 2011 10:20 am

Noticed a few people with inadequate gloves hurt their hands again this weekend in Houston...

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Re: Project Proposal - Rigid Hand Protection

Postby Marcos Ariño » Sat Apr 09, 2011 10:35 pm

Sean Karp wrote:Leoric1958@gmail.com who makes the below (Thread is HERE):
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Also you may wish to ask Known World Treasures to see if they can help.


Nice ones Sean, thanks. I've posted that over at the schola forum for a guy working on a hard plastic glove prototype.
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Re: Project Proposal - Rigid Hand Protection

Postby Sean Karp » Mon Apr 11, 2011 11:15 pm

From the thread on them:
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Mild steel, blued, wisby style, finger gauntlets for sale. Cuffs are reinforced with 11 gauge steel and are covered with leather both sides . Metacarpals are made from 16 gauge steel and are padded with 2 layers of leather and good felt sewed inside. Finger elements are deeper and wider and they are riveted to a leather of 2 mm thickness. 156 rivets.

Size: available in different sizes

Delivery: 6-8 days, fast air parcel with tracking.

Price: about 350 USD Paypal
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and they are SCA legal too.
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Re: Project Proposal - Rigid Hand Protection

Postby Jeremy S. » Thu Apr 14, 2011 10:58 am

http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/cb.aspx?a=792373

Does anyone have experience with these gloves, or something similar? They don't seem much different than the motorcross glvoes.
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Re: Project Proposal - Rigid Hand Protection

Postby Jason Taylor » Fri Apr 15, 2011 12:03 am

Jeremy S. wrote:http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/cb.aspx?a=792373

Does anyone have experience with these gloves, or something similar? They don't seem much different than the motorcross glvoes.


Had a pair almost exactly like that--it might even be the same brand, but I can't tell looking at the link. Mine were Damascus, I think. Anyway, the protection was in the same places and the same type as this. It was, unfortunately, totally inadequate. Just a few slivers of carbon fiber in a handful of places and the rest was just a strip of leather. You'd get your hand bones powdered through them if yo tried to go full contact with a steel.

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Re: Project Proposal - Rigid Hand Protection

Postby Christopher Wheeler » Sat Apr 16, 2011 5:55 am

Anyone (especially those who have cross-trained with SCA) have any experience with these?

http://www.by-the-sword.com/acatalog/Le ... -2126.html

How is the protection? Or the mobility? While they look like they may need some padding, I'm thinking the light sparring gloves (sold at purpleheart, I forget the manufacturer right now), or maybe even padded saber-fencing gloves, may be sufficient if the leather is stiff enough. They look like there would be some gaps near the side of the fingers, but no more than what you see in LAX gloves. If no one has any experience, I may just buy a pair for testing in the next couple of weeks....

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Re: Project Proposal - Rigid Hand Protection

Postby John P » Sat Apr 16, 2011 7:34 am

A guy in our group has those and they seem to work some what well. The rivets that hold on the leather straps have broken several time but has said they where easy to fix if you can do rivets. He has been struck on the top of the thumb several times since the thumb covers is just flat leather and nothing covers the side or the top of the thumb. He wear these over padded fencing gloves. I have been thinking about picking up something similar to that form schmitthenner.com they have one with a caped thumb. it is labeled Leather Medieval "Clamshell" Gauntlets Wax Hardened. Just a warning that they are almost a month over the delivery date for some gear one of the guys ordered. I am not a fan of the SCA/knight look but I am getting annoyed with the bulkiness of my lacrosse gloves.


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